You Know What Annoys Me?

"Jcarr" (jcarr) 05/08/2017 at 14:33 • Filed to: Rants

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When people put obviously undersized tires on their vehicle. I’m not talking about doing it for aesthetic reasons. I’m talking about when somebody is too much of a cheapskate to replace their worn tires with appropriately-sized new ones and has the tire shop put on the smallest, cheapest ones that will fit. Don’t know why, but it bugs the hell out of me.

This one is clearly going for some sort of aesthetic effect, but it was too good to not use.

fintail > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:37

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Only in a Jeep? Reminds me of an old timey railroad service vehicle made to run on train tracks. And I won’t even get started on the wide whites, like the Delorean in 1955.

Censored > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:40

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Good thing he has 6" Pocket Flairs on there to protect against all the kicked up rocks. Also, nice that he has a full size spare that is 100% completely useless, usually the other way around 35" tires and a 28/29" spare. This person needs counseling.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:41

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I couldn’t get it in one shot, but you get the idea...

Jcarr > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/08/2017 at 14:42

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Classic. Need the status symbol, but don’t want to pay for the cost of ownership.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:42

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Also you’d think the increased fuel consumption would offset any savings...

Milky > fintail 05/08/2017 at 14:44

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#Hellaflush

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:44

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never skip leg day

fintail > Milky 05/08/2017 at 14:48

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Grandpa:

Takuro Spirit > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:49

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Got cut off by someone in a 1st gen CR-V who couldn’t merge properly at the speed limit. PROBABLY because his speedo was so far off by having undersized ass tires...

Tripper > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:49

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That is what happens when you skip leg day.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Censored 05/08/2017 at 14:50

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he might be having new tires mounted on new wheels and thats just what the shop had put on for him so he could still use his truck in the meantime

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Tripper 05/08/2017 at 14:51

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ha beat you by 5 minutes :P

Milky > fintail 05/08/2017 at 14:55

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Its so cute.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 14:56

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The front wheel of the M6 GTLM drives me insane. Why does the wheel arch have to be so big?

Jcarr > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/08/2017 at 14:58

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Now I can’t unsee that.

Censored > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 05/08/2017 at 15:01

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Maybe so, but that doesn’t stop it from angering me. You’d think in a temp application, they would atlest turn the white walls in.

RallyWrench > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 15:02

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Reminds me of monster truck transport tires

Although I’m sure this Jeep was so fitted for shorter gearing...

OPPOsaurus WRX > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 15:07

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Mazarin > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/08/2017 at 15:08

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It’s like a rollerskate or a skateboard

OPPOsaurus WRX > RallyWrench 05/08/2017 at 15:08

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boooo you beat me to it

Klaus Schmoll > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/08/2017 at 15:10

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While I love my BMW, I hate to be associated with BMW drivers. There are some rotten fruit among us.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 15:11

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Well sometimes off road people have stuff they are installing and just have those tires until they get it all done. I have no idea if that’s why this jeep is that way.

Jcarr > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 05/08/2017 at 15:12

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That doesn’t bother me. I’m talking about people with regular cars that obviously just cheaped out on new tires.

Thomas Donohue > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 15:12

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Jcarr > Thomas Donohue 05/08/2017 at 15:13

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Cheapskates!

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Klaus Schmoll 05/08/2017 at 15:19

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True, but I’d rather have rotten fruit in my batch of fresh fruit than be the only fresh fruit in a batch of rotten fruit.

‘Course, the BMW group is pretty much 50/50. Around here at least.

Charlie Zulu > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 15:19

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Not ok, but kind of glad someone did this. Conflicted.

XJDano > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 05/08/2017 at 15:22

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Rollers, just to roll around the shop or takes the “lift” away from the bigger tires and make it easier to reach into engine bay. I’m too lazy right now to look up my photo.

nerd_racing > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/08/2017 at 16:00

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I’m guessing it is so the thing can steer without rubbing the bodywork witht he tires...

Tripper > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 05/08/2017 at 16:07

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Damnit lol I thought I looked!

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > nerd_racing 05/08/2017 at 16:11

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But no other car on the grid needs larger wheel arches and none of the previous BMWs have either.

nerd_racing > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/08/2017 at 16:15

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Hmm, maybe it was sourced from a drift setup that has crazy steering angles? BMW and their cost cutting am I right?

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/08/2017 at 16:36

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Owner told the guy at th counter he had a BMW 3...x something, got 330x tires instead of X3 tires.

Die-Trying > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 18:00

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nothing wrong with trying to fit into the garage, or reach into the engine bay without the milkcrate, and my engine hoist only goes so high  .........

Jcarr > Die-Trying 05/08/2017 at 18:20

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Yeah, but this isn’t what I’m taking about.

Die-Trying > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 18:30

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sure it is, sometimes i am using the garage for a month straight, and cruising town getting parts, and sometimes i am trying to wear out a set of rollyes.......

BigBlock440 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/08/2017 at 19:00

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But it wouldn’t increase fuel consumption, or at least it’s not a sure thing. You’d decrease rolling resistance and rotating mass, so it’s more likely to increase it. Also, your speedo/odo would read higher than actual, so your calculated consumption would be much less as well.

NJAnon > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 19:04

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Well in racing, yeah you test with a 18inch wheel sometimes instead of 19inch wheel since its smaller rotating mass and lighter.

But on regular cars, its comes off shoddy when you do it like how that Jeep looks. Im pretty sure you can find the correct size of wheel in that design for that Jeep AND still get whitewall tires too.

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 19:28

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 A different case. This was my Fiero when I bought it. I love the period correct aftermarket wheels, and they had good and really new tires. But no one makes 15" tires in the right diameter anymore. So I had to basically waste those, and spend a bunch more to upgrade wheels *and* tires.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > BigBlock440 05/08/2017 at 20:02

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calculated consumption=/=actual consumption

You’d still have to work the engine harder to do the same work. I can’t see the MPG getting better, unless you have something like a Raptor and don’t reduce the tire size too much.

The Jeep in the main post? No way that doesn’t burn more fuel.

JeepJeremy > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 21:09

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That Wrangler makes me extremely uncomfortable

It’s like a nightmare

Jonathan Harper > Jcarr 05/08/2017 at 21:32

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That’s jeep is hilariously clownish.

BigBlock440 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/09/2017 at 00:20

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calculated consumption=/=actual consumption

Part of my point, you wouldn’t notice any increased consumption (if there actually is any).

The Jeep in the main post? No way that doesn’t burn more fuel.

Under the exact same conditions? They’re thinner and lighter, less rolling resistance and less rotating mass, both will decrease fuel consumption so I’m not sold. That rolling resistance is a killer.

Going by real-world results? The speedo’s going to read higher, so it’s likely you’ll drive slower, reducing aerodynamic drag. So will being lower to the ground. I’d bet the Jeep gets 10% better fuel economy with the little tires vs. stock.

I put an 8-ply mud tread tire on my truck replacing more appropriately weighted balding all terrains, exact same size, and I lost 3 mpg. Went from 18 hwy, 15 average to 14/15 hwy 10/12 average. More weight, more contact area, it’s going to burn more fuel.

TL:DR: it may look ridiculous, and increase tire wear, but it’s not likely to increase fuel consumption, calculated or actual.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > BigBlock440 05/09/2017 at 08:50

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Some people wouldn’t. I would. I track my trips and if I go anywhere new to me I check the distance via google maps (less down to a passion for accuracy and more down to never remembering to check the odo at the beginning and end of trips).

...I was going to work out mathematically why I’m right and realized you probably were, at least based on a rough estimate of that Jeep’s tire size over on stock. Figure those tires have about a foot less circumference than stock, just on an eyeball estimate, so ~138 more rotations per mile... not a huge increase. Or at least not as big as I’d expected. DAMN YOU :)

If you drive off the speedo, then yes. I suppose an unfortunately high number of people do this, so I’ll allow it. If you drive by feel, you’ll probably end up somewhere in between.

I went from a highway tire to an A/T tire and ended up with no difference. Same tire size. Granted I picked the lightest I could find, but still heavier than stock. And I drive it harder now because the highway tires were garbage... So by all accounts it should be worse.

TL;DR I dunno

BigBlock440 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 05/09/2017 at 11:46

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Oops, I meant I replaced All Seasons not All Terrains. If I had AT’s on there before I probably wouldn’t have lost as much.